1 00:00:01,226 --> 00:00:02,256 >> Hi, welcome back 2 00:00:02,256 --> 00:00:04,556 to the International Space Station Flight Control Room, 3 00:00:04,556 --> 00:00:06,496 the Mission Control Center in Houston where we have again 4 00:00:06,496 --> 00:00:09,686 with us today Mario Runco, an astronaut who we talked 5 00:00:09,686 --> 00:00:12,696 with earlier in the week about that Venus transit 6 00:00:12,696 --> 00:00:15,386 and all the exciting activities that were going 7 00:00:15,386 --> 00:00:16,536 on in association with that. 8 00:00:16,536 --> 00:00:18,726 He's back to give us a report on how everything went. 9 00:00:18,846 --> 00:00:19,756 Thanks for coming back, Mario. 10 00:00:19,826 --> 00:00:20,926 >> Well, thanks for having me. 11 00:00:20,926 --> 00:00:23,276 And it has been a very exciting week, 12 00:00:23,276 --> 00:00:26,586 the response was just tremendous around the world, 13 00:00:26,586 --> 00:00:29,606 and locally here in Houston, in the United States. 14 00:00:30,176 --> 00:00:33,616 I was impressed with Don's performance not only 15 00:00:33,616 --> 00:00:36,286 in the quality of some of his images but also 16 00:00:36,286 --> 00:00:37,446 in the sheer quantity. 17 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:41,566 And he's a good photographer, and in attempting 18 00:00:41,566 --> 00:00:44,366 to get good images, photographers know 19 00:00:44,366 --> 00:00:49,176 that they need to snap a lot to get that one premier image 20 00:00:49,176 --> 00:00:50,346 that just captures it. 21 00:00:50,976 --> 00:00:54,876 In the way of numbers, we got down, at least as far as I know 22 00:00:54,876 --> 00:00:57,586 at this point, at least about 1800 images 23 00:00:57,586 --> 00:01:01,576 of the transit throughout the course of the six hours 24 00:01:01,576 --> 00:01:04,166 that it took place, and Don was not up the whole time, 25 00:01:04,166 --> 00:01:05,206 just to remember that. 26 00:01:05,206 --> 00:01:07,866 He -- at the start, took some images 27 00:01:07,866 --> 00:01:11,546 of the first contacts, and then quit. 28 00:01:11,696 --> 00:01:14,676 And then came back later when the -- 29 00:01:14,826 --> 00:01:16,786 Venus was more or less in the middle 30 00:01:16,786 --> 00:01:18,396 of the Sun, at the center point. 31 00:01:18,396 --> 00:01:22,316 And then again later on when the third 32 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:23,536 and fourth contacts took place. 33 00:01:24,066 --> 00:01:29,016 So he was up for short periods of time, discreet times, 34 00:01:29,016 --> 00:01:32,156 and I might add too, that Don was not the only one 35 00:01:32,286 --> 00:01:33,176 snapping photos. 36 00:01:33,176 --> 00:01:36,426 He had employed the rest of the crew, they were all up as well. 37 00:01:36,836 --> 00:01:39,596 Don't tell anybody in the control center about that. 38 00:01:40,546 --> 00:01:42,786 And so they were all taking pictures, 39 00:01:42,786 --> 00:01:45,606 all enjoying the moment, the historical event, 40 00:01:45,606 --> 00:01:46,916 the moment in time, if you will. 41 00:01:47,326 --> 00:01:50,526 And then they -- Don sent me a note, 42 00:01:50,526 --> 00:01:54,596 he says he found himself single ship again, they had all kind 43 00:01:54,596 --> 00:01:55,976 of quit and went to bed an left the work to Don. 44 00:01:56,096 --> 00:02:00,586 >> But you know, his enthusiasm is certainly catching. 45 00:02:00,586 --> 00:02:03,346 It seems like a lot of people were very interested in this. 46 00:02:03,346 --> 00:02:05,336 I think a lot of people went out and watched, 47 00:02:05,336 --> 00:02:06,826 at least for a few minutes. 48 00:02:06,826 --> 00:02:11,056 And it just seemed like everybody across the country 49 00:02:11,056 --> 00:02:14,666 and probably even around the world was paying attention. 50 00:02:14,666 --> 00:02:16,426 >> And that seems to be the case. 51 00:02:16,426 --> 00:02:20,766 I know myself here in Houston, I had several hundreds of pairs 52 00:02:20,766 --> 00:02:25,886 of the solar filter glasses, and I started passing them out, 53 00:02:25,886 --> 00:02:28,326 and I quickly ran out, and I didn't have enough, 54 00:02:28,326 --> 00:02:31,436 unfortunately, for everybody that wanted some. 55 00:02:31,436 --> 00:02:31,696 So -- 56 00:02:31,696 --> 00:02:34,006 >> I think we're seeing here, there's a video 57 00:02:34,006 --> 00:02:38,556 from the solar dynamics observatory of the actual event. 58 00:02:39,006 --> 00:02:41,086 >> And that was -- these were spectacular. 59 00:02:41,086 --> 00:02:45,316 They had some great images of the context 60 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:46,636 of the entire transit. 61 00:02:46,876 --> 00:02:50,106 We can see the different filters on the sun to bring 62 00:02:50,106 --> 00:02:52,416 out different aspects of it, behind Venus. 63 00:02:53,016 --> 00:02:56,816 And Venus, unlike the weather in some places on Earth, 64 00:02:56,816 --> 00:02:58,196 cooperated very well, and was right 65 00:02:58,196 --> 00:03:00,736 on time and exited on time. 66 00:03:00,736 --> 00:03:03,366 And we won't be talking about this again 67 00:03:03,366 --> 00:03:07,246 for 121-and-a-half years, unfortunately. 68 00:03:07,536 --> 00:03:10,136 But there is, by the way, just as an aside, there's a transit 69 00:03:10,136 --> 00:03:12,066 of Mercury that's not so far off. 70 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:12,566 >> Oh really? 71 00:03:12,566 --> 00:03:17,966 Okay. Will that be kind of the same thing to see, or different? 72 00:03:17,966 --> 00:03:21,546 >> Along the same lines, Mercury is of course much smaller 73 00:03:21,546 --> 00:03:25,476 and so it's not as big, it might be harder to discern. 74 00:03:25,886 --> 00:03:30,506 Those of you who use the solar filter glasses for a direct look 75 00:03:30,506 --> 00:03:33,246 at the sun and not through some alternative means, 76 00:03:33,246 --> 00:03:37,936 it was hard to pick out Venus at the start and finish 77 00:03:38,076 --> 00:03:39,986 because it was so close to the edge, and if you didn't know 78 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:42,106 where to look you may not have found it. 79 00:03:42,106 --> 00:03:44,756 And Mercury may be a little more difficult than that. 80 00:03:44,756 --> 00:03:47,496 >> Okay. Well I know -- I think we have some specific photos you 81 00:03:47,496 --> 00:03:48,466 wanted to be sure and show, 82 00:03:48,466 --> 00:03:50,546 so I think we can get the first one of those now? 83 00:03:50,726 --> 00:03:52,406 >> Great. The photos -- 84 00:03:52,406 --> 00:03:55,136 yeah, these are a couple of photos that Don had taken. 85 00:03:55,136 --> 00:03:58,156 And these are quite telling in that the one 86 00:03:58,156 --> 00:04:01,846 on the left is taken not during the transit 87 00:04:01,846 --> 00:04:04,166 but through the scratch pane window, 88 00:04:04,166 --> 00:04:05,856 that was the cupola window 89 00:04:05,856 --> 00:04:07,396 without the scratch pane removed. 90 00:04:07,756 --> 00:04:10,726 And you can see how the sun is very much washed out. 91 00:04:10,726 --> 00:04:14,276 The one on the right is during the transit through window one. 92 00:04:14,276 --> 00:04:16,196 And it had the scratch pane removed. 93 00:04:16,196 --> 00:04:19,996 So it was rather fortuitous that we were able to accomplish that 94 00:04:19,996 --> 00:04:21,496 and get the scratch pane removed. 95 00:04:21,496 --> 00:04:23,176 And the one on the right you can actually start 96 00:04:23,176 --> 00:04:26,796 to see some sun spots show up in the image. 97 00:04:26,796 --> 00:04:29,656 And this is with the 762 diameter filter 98 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:33,266 that makes the image look -- the orange tinge to it. 99 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:35,986 And this is the same sort of filter that is 100 00:04:35,986 --> 00:04:39,696 in the solar filter glasses that we have, that's a filter 101 00:04:39,696 --> 00:04:41,216 that is put on the front end of the camera. 102 00:04:41,636 --> 00:04:44,216 >> Okay, and here's the second one. 103 00:04:44,446 --> 00:04:45,646 >> The second one, and this is 104 00:04:45,646 --> 00:04:49,426 with the white light mylar solar filter that Don had taken up. 105 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:50,986 Again, the one on the left is 106 00:04:50,986 --> 00:04:55,316 with the scratch panes barely any sun spots visible. 107 00:04:55,316 --> 00:04:58,176 And again this was not taken during the transit, 108 00:04:58,176 --> 00:05:00,416 so you won't see the spot of Venus on there. 109 00:05:00,766 --> 00:05:03,826 The one on the right was taken during the transit. 110 00:05:04,356 --> 00:05:07,316 However you can see the sun spots 111 00:05:07,316 --> 00:05:08,656 that do show up in the image. 112 00:05:09,596 --> 00:05:13,706 For orientation purposes, the one on the left you can see -- 113 00:05:13,706 --> 00:05:16,726 maybe the viewers at home can't see this. 114 00:05:16,726 --> 00:05:20,786 But the two sun spots in the middle lower right are the same. 115 00:05:20,786 --> 00:05:22,126 But they're in a different orientation 116 00:05:22,126 --> 00:05:24,116 because the images are clocked a little differently. 117 00:05:24,436 --> 00:05:25,506 They're the same as the ones 118 00:05:25,506 --> 00:05:27,596 in the middle lower right, on the right image. 119 00:05:28,406 --> 00:05:33,186 But clearly the scratch panes removed gave us a substantial 120 00:05:33,186 --> 00:05:34,826 benefit in the clarity of the photos. 121 00:05:35,236 --> 00:05:36,416 I think we have one more, do we not? 122 00:05:36,726 --> 00:05:38,656 >> Yes, here it is. 123 00:05:38,656 --> 00:05:42,506 >> Okay, this is a third one where you can see -- 124 00:05:42,506 --> 00:05:44,396 the one on the left was the previous one 125 00:05:44,396 --> 00:05:45,726 with the scratch pane on. 126 00:05:45,726 --> 00:05:50,036 The middle one is actually one of the Russian windows. 127 00:05:50,036 --> 00:05:53,396 And we can see that in the Russian windows, 128 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:55,846 they're good quality optical windows as well. 129 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:58,566 The sun spots begin to show up there. 130 00:05:58,846 --> 00:06:02,416 And then the third one was the first 762 nanometer. 131 00:06:02,416 --> 00:06:04,346 I wanted to get a comparison 132 00:06:04,346 --> 00:06:05,956 as to what the two different images looked 133 00:06:05,956 --> 00:06:09,276 like between the two different filters for everyone. 134 00:06:09,696 --> 00:06:13,446 So it was quite a success, not only in enthusiasm, 135 00:06:13,446 --> 00:06:15,796 number of images, and I believe -- 136 00:06:15,796 --> 00:06:18,356 we haven't had time to go through all 137 00:06:18,356 --> 00:06:20,696 of the 1800 images Don had sent down, 138 00:06:21,076 --> 00:06:24,056 in that I think he actually caught Venus 139 00:06:24,056 --> 00:06:26,636 at the contact points when it was tangent 140 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:28,616 to the edge of the sun. 141 00:06:28,616 --> 00:06:30,266 Maybe we could show those at a later date, 142 00:06:30,266 --> 00:06:33,436 or publish those on line. 143 00:06:33,546 --> 00:06:36,506 We're hoping to review those and find those, the best. 144 00:06:36,966 --> 00:06:38,936 And some of those we might each be able 145 00:06:38,936 --> 00:06:41,366 to see the black drop effect from the atmosphere of Venus 146 00:06:41,366 --> 00:06:42,836 that Don had mentioned in his video. 147 00:06:43,336 --> 00:06:47,276 So still more to be done, like all missions, if you will, 148 00:06:47,276 --> 00:06:50,326 when we do experimentation and collect data, the -- 149 00:06:50,646 --> 00:06:53,686 it takes a much longer time to review the data and plow 150 00:06:53,686 --> 00:06:56,066 through what you've got than it does 151 00:06:56,066 --> 00:06:58,776 to actually do the experiment itself. 152 00:06:59,226 --> 00:07:01,006 >> Right. And I know you can continue to go 153 00:07:01,006 --> 00:07:04,586 to venustransit.nasa.gov to see the photos 154 00:07:04,586 --> 00:07:05,636 that are already on line. 155 00:07:05,636 --> 00:07:07,246 Not just from the International Space Station, 156 00:07:07,246 --> 00:07:09,526 but a number of different sources. 157 00:07:09,576 --> 00:07:11,126 So a lot of good information there. 158 00:07:11,126 --> 00:07:13,426 Again, it's venustransit.nasa.gov. 159 00:07:13,996 --> 00:07:16,666 And before we wrap up I assume you went out and watched 160 00:07:16,666 --> 00:07:17,816 for a little while yourself? 161 00:07:17,816 --> 00:07:18,746 >> Yes, I did. 162 00:07:18,746 --> 00:07:19,866 I wouldn't have missed it. 163 00:07:19,866 --> 00:07:23,186 I actually was in the studio right before hand 164 00:07:23,286 --> 00:07:24,736 with the NASA edge group. 165 00:07:25,296 --> 00:07:27,336 And fortunately my timing was 166 00:07:27,336 --> 00:07:29,046 such that I was able to go outside. 167 00:07:29,046 --> 00:07:30,716 And fortunately for us here in Houston 168 00:07:30,946 --> 00:07:34,036 that the skies were clear, very much so. 169 00:07:34,036 --> 00:07:38,226 So I had visibility and I used a telescope with a camera, 170 00:07:38,226 --> 00:07:40,656 got some personal images of it. 171 00:07:40,656 --> 00:07:42,366 And had the solar filter of course, 172 00:07:42,366 --> 00:07:44,076 all the safety things, I can still see. 173 00:07:44,076 --> 00:07:49,056 And it was -- it was just a moment in time. 174 00:07:49,056 --> 00:07:53,376 And I was thinking what might have been in James Cook's mind 175 00:07:53,376 --> 00:07:57,326 when he was viewing it in Tahiti in 1769. 176 00:07:57,326 --> 00:08:00,856 It was just a spectacular, you know, singular moment 177 00:08:00,936 --> 00:08:02,046 that I won't forget, 178 00:08:02,046 --> 00:08:04,776 and hopefully many others will not forget either. 179 00:08:04,846 --> 00:08:06,166 >> We talked a little bit last time 180 00:08:06,166 --> 00:08:11,346 about how it's not necessarily the same scientific significance 181 00:08:11,346 --> 00:08:14,036 as it meant for the earlier transits, 182 00:08:14,036 --> 00:08:17,116 but still obviously a lot of interest in the photos. 183 00:08:17,116 --> 00:08:19,136 You want [Inaudible] captures people's imagination? 184 00:08:19,326 --> 00:08:23,686 >> I think it puts them at points in time that -- 185 00:08:23,686 --> 00:08:26,616 and connects them, if you will, with the cosmos, 186 00:08:26,616 --> 00:08:31,476 that's a big statement, I understand, but as, you know, 187 00:08:31,476 --> 00:08:36,136 we here on Earth, this small planet, in the big picture 188 00:08:36,136 --> 00:08:40,356 of things, pretty much insignificant in -- 189 00:08:40,356 --> 00:08:43,906 compared to the rest of the universe, and this -- 190 00:08:44,116 --> 00:08:46,406 this sort of thing connects us with the universe 191 00:08:46,406 --> 00:08:49,306 because it goes to time scales 192 00:08:49,306 --> 00:08:52,446 that are beyond the lifetimes of us as individuals. 193 00:08:52,726 --> 00:08:53,476 >> All right. 194 00:08:53,476 --> 00:08:55,326 Well thank you again for coming out both times, 195 00:08:55,326 --> 00:08:57,836 we really appreciate it, I think a lot of people enjoyed it, 196 00:08:57,836 --> 00:09:01,436 and we will hope to hear more about these sorts of events